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Pope at the UN


Pope at the UN
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°æÈ¨: Kristine KM (avene) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1409 W: 78 N: 1807] (6756)
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ÅÄÉãʱ¼ä: 2008-04-18
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Ïà»ú: Nikon D 200, Nikkor 18-200 3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S DX VR
Exposure: f/5.6, 1/30 seconds
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Photo Version: Original Version
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Pope Benedict XVI is waiting to address the General Assembly of the United Nations and listens to the introductory speaches by the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon (first from the left on the podium) and President of the 62nd session of the GA Srgjan Hasan Kerim (in the middle on the podium). in his own speach, the Pope stated that the human rights were "the common language and ethical substratum of international relations," and added that promoting human rights was the best way to eliminate inequalities. he particularly emphasised the need to ensure religious freedom, saying "it should never be necessary to deny God in order to enjoy one's rights". if you want to read the whole speach, look here.
the speech to the General Assembly is a papal tradition: Pope Paul VI made an appearance in 1965, and Pope John Paul II in 1979 and 1995.
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I thought it was quite interesting to observe the meeting of the two unique institutions - the only truly global organization with all 192 states as members on the one hand, and the only religious leader who automatically becomes the head of state of the Vatican City (and the only absolute monarch in Europe) once he is elected as the Pope.

about the photo - honestly, this is the best I could do given the bad light and huge distance from were I was sitting to where the Pope was. besides, it took me a while to figure out the appropriate exposure, and after several "try and miss" shots I settled for a spot metering from the bright white clothes with +1 EV.

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Hi Kristine,
wow, how did you get there?
A valuable documentary shot of great quality.
Bravo
Best wishes
Romana

Hi Avene,
must be a strange feeling to be so close to the centres of power. TEchnically an excellent document.
Compliments, Chris

Kristine, nice capture, very much in line with TE I think, this is certainly about our planet. Exposure seems fine and the framing is nice with the offset as you have it. Is this hand held?

Greg

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  • zmey Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1363 W: 102 N: 1393] (5398)
  • [2008-04-24 5:53]
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hello there

quite unique and, in my opinion, very much along the lines of the trek-earth spirit. i find, you have done excellent job with the exposure here. the pope seems to radiate light (quite symbolic, huh?) while detail is not lost neither on the poorer lit areas nor on the pope's bright attire. nice, journalistic capture and a very good note to go with it pinpointing the significance of the moment.

hugs,
k.

Hello Kristine. Congratulation. An authentic and professional photo. Best regards, Wolfgang.

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  • molla Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 647 W: 85 N: 833] (5460)
  • [2008-04-24 6:26]

Hej Kristine ,
As I'm working on a news redaction i know what kind of pictures that coming out from this kind of events, and i consider this as well as good as a lot of other so called PRO. Cant Say I'm a great fan of the Pope especially not this one, but it's interesting in the way they placed him in the aula and using light on him to make him stand out from the rest of the people...
Anders

Hi Kristine,
Wonderful capture of a historical event and excellent commentary.
My compliments
joRge

Hi, Kristine -

I'm surprised they let you take your D200 into the GA, even with diplomatic status. Considering the difficulties you were under (no flash, for example), this is an excellent shot; well composed, too. And very classic TE.

Is the pope really still an absolute monarch, though, even within the confines of the Vatican? Can he order an auto-da-fe, for example?

Best,
Dan

Dear Kristine,
I have nothing with any religion, nothing with the pope at all with his middle-age thoughts, but what you bring us here in this photo is high class photo journalism. None of us can make such a shot if you don't have a press card...so my question, how did you get there with camera...work?
This picture could be put on the main page of a news paper, i really mean that, the whole composition is very good, just as you light control. The people in front, the three members high above, it all fits perfectly.
The only thing missing is someone behind the stand speaking while the pope is waiting.
I am really impressed you were there...top..!!!
Regards, Henk

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  • gunbud Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 4706 W: 4 N: 4327] (19510)
  • [2008-04-24 18:46]

Hi Kristine,

Great clarity of colors to this wonderful documentary scene. Excellent sharpness and details as well.
Regards, Tom

Hi Kristine,
You mentioned that you are a jurist. I guessed that you worked for the UN and now I know. There is no way that anyone but a seasoned press photographer with a press pass on assignment could attend an event like this unless you are an insider (working for the UN). This is a huge advantage for you to take photos for of very important events like this. Photos like this have enormous historical potential and maybe even some potential for publication in a UN magazine. Don't underestimate the opportunities that you have by working here. This is very good photojournalistic photography and your composition is outstanding (too good for newspaper work in my opinion). Working for the UN has enormous potential for you to get published and for some photographic assignment work. My advice is to "take the ball and run with it" and look for more opportunities like this one (maybe even for a career change as a UN photographer). We photographers need to be opportunists! Great job!
Stan

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  • Wanda1 Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1229 W: 21 N: 1559] (8761)
  • [2008-04-24 23:10]

Hi Kristine,
You were fortunate to be able to get in to this meeting and photograph. This is a great journalistic shot and all the elements are so well balanced in the image. You did really well with the exposure using the available light. Nice work!
Regards
Wanda

Hello Kristine,

Une image que l'on voit peu sur TE. Belle composition.
Marie

Hi Kristine,

Seems you are stepping into the more journalistic work in photography. I think you managed to expose it very well.
And an interesting thought of two unique institutions coming together here. Very true.
I'm now wondering what your next step will be in journalistic photography ;-).

Greetings! Dennis

A journalistic report on T. E.....
that feelings you experienced in a saturated environment things of so importants persons?
excellent work Kristine
my compliments sERGIO

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  • toto Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2464 W: 112 N: 2824] (15044)
  • [2008-04-25 14:06]

Bonsoir,
belle photo de notre pape qui est il est vrait aux états unis d' amérique et qui assiste a une assemblée des nations unies.
Jolies couleurs et bonne netteté de lensemble de cette scène.

Amitiés Thomas

Hi Kristine,
perfect management of light!
In all honestly, I've rarely seen such a good photojournalistic effort. The colors too... they are magnificent!
Have a great weekend, thanks for sharing.
Ciao,
Fulvio.

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  • crckt Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1402 W: 68 N: 1315] (6815)
  • [2008-04-26 8:15]

Hi Kristine,
You witnessed a real historical moment, this is great! Wonderful shot to document this event.
Well done,
Shaeri

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  • mikeo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1236 W: 92 N: 1436] (9708)
  • [2008-04-26 14:09]

Hello Kristine,

Seems you are a big person to go there:))) I was reading all discussions about this photo and it made me smile where you wrote about your tiny camera and all those toys of professional journalists:) Everywhere I go and see such kind of huuuuuuuge lenses I always focus on them - not the place/event:)

Really very good reporter shot and despite difficult conditions - very good quality.

Best greetings,
Mikeo

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  • euryan Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1118 W: 121 N: 1819] (7964)
  • [2008-04-26 17:00]
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Very unique photo opportunity and you took advantage of it well. I like the composition a lot. I'm glad you went with this shot of him sitting rather than behind the pulpit. I don't agree with Henk (for once) that the only thing missing is someone behind the pulpit. I think it is pretty obvious that he is waiting to speak. If there were someone behind the pulpit they would be a second center of interest and would be a distraction. Good job finding the right exposure too.
Regards,
Ryan
PS I read your intro and I see you have a love for the desert too. You should make a trip to Utah. We have a lot of great deserts and I'd be interested to see how you photograph them with your unique style.

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  • jorgi Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 865 W: 125 N: 649] (2869)
  • [2008-04-27 23:32]
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Hi Kristine,

I cannot help not to comment this shot as first. You did excellent job despite heavy conditions. White pope is excellently stressed and he dominates the whole capture as true individual with importance. A known face, for some a person of divotion, for other person to criticize. I was raised in catholic religion but I rejected it long time ago. I consider this white clothes, a symbol of pureness, as a mockery to constant exploitation and abuses happening all over the word under the protection of catholic church, not doing enough or almost anything to stop them. A few words cannot change that, only actions. If not catched and put in publicity, this abuses are hidden and aproved. And I trully hate them for that. I'm sorry Kristine, but I had to speak my mind. Otherwise you did excellent job documating this event.

Kind regards,
Jeri

First of all Kristine, what an interesting job you have working for the UN ... and than living in NYC. Both must be a dream.
About the pope, some of his speaches are interesting, others are as Foydian said before thoughts for the middle age.
But your picture is great. Seeing Ban Ki Moon is very exciting. Thank you for sharing.
Nino

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  • plimrn Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3897 W: 233 N: 5271] (16610)
  • [2008-05-01 9:47]

Hi Avene,
As your many raves note, this is indeed exceptional work. Nice of you to share your secret; the spot focus and the +1 worked perfectly. I also agree with the many comments that say it is better than most photos published; although I expect your job may be much better than an official UN photographer.

It is an interesting compromise to put the Pope in a throne but below the level of the three others, or is this typical seating for a speaker? I don't remember ever seeing anything that looked quitwe like this.

HLJ, Pat

Kristine,
no excuses please! Why on earth do you think that you need to write something about the difficulties to get the shot? The shot is absolutely perfect! It shows history and it shows your work environment. The light mangement is top notch. A real photojournalistic achievement with the best outcome!
Peter

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  • MayaG Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 266 W: 15 N: 387] (2135)
  • [2008-05-08 14:41]
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Aha, this is where you work ;)
I think you can be absolutely proud of this one, Kristine. No tripod, at this distance and this light! it turned out really great. It is a bit silly to talk about composition here as this is definitely a shot where you couldn't really try to compose even if you wanted - but I have to mention how much I like this 'layered' vertical arrangement of subjects...Bravo for this one!

wait a sec... :O where's the link to Kristap's version? ;p

kristine

despite the problems you got a nice image, the Pope is very nice put in the compo and the other personages and the shapes of the building were matched very nice. beautiful work, light and pov are very nice

hugs

jorge

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