Photographer's Note
As many people that frequent TE and make their best to contribute to make it an unique community focused in Photography and knowing about the world through it, I am in shock and revolted with the temporary ban on George Grabarczyk (Polonaise). I have had little contact with him, although I find him one of the most talented and inspired photographers in this site and also a member that contributes much to make this site more interesting. He is certainly unorthodox, but I think that only the short minded with no sense of humour could understand his provocative writings as insulting.
The biggest (really bad tasted) irony is that the reason to punish him was a hot blooded reply (see the post before you read the discussion!) to a real insult done by someone who has been contributing much to the bad mood of many threads of the forums.
I have been trying to convince myself that the administrators of TE refrained themselves to take any action to shut up that disturbing member because they wanted to respect the freedom of speech. It was a bit irritating that nearly every thread where I participated trying to argue without loosing temper ended up locked(*), but I admit it was the only way to end useless bad mood discussions that only satisfied those (the plural here is just for the sake of political correctness) with less good intentions. Curiously, that person constantly involved in those discussions has no photos in TE and, as far as I remember, when I noticed him starting to appear in the forums, had posted only a couple of times in the last 18 months and only wrote a critique once in a while, very often just to provoke and/or insult.
Now that they have punished George, I confirm with no surprise that I was wrong, as the act of shutting down Polonaise account sounds much like an act of censorship.
[(*) The last one where that happened was one started by the author of the post above mentioned, which was by not means offensive, which denotes quite a good temper after what the other wrote.]
But the main issue here is not whom was punished; instead, what is really worrying is the fact the apparently sudden way that the act was carried out, that provokes the feeling that there is a Big Brother that can shut you up if you do something you weren't suppose to do even if you did it thinking in good faith that you didn't infringe any rule. I agree that in strict sense George broke the rules in his reply pointed above, but the punishment sounds too exaggerated specially taking in account the context.
This event would be equally revolting if the person involved was less known and was a much less active member or even if I didn't like him or his contributions at all. In the forums, ErikSven wisely quoted Voltaire: "I don't agree at all with your ideas, but I will fight, so that you will be able to express them".
Before this happened, I was already worried with the undeniable sense of discomfort that many of us are feeling lately in TE, which contrasts much with what the good mood that made me so addicted to this site, and already led many once very active members leaving and/or reducing much their activity. More than once I tried to appeal to people not reacting too emotionally to posts deleted by the moderators, or to more sickening threads in the forums, but I feel that it's like rowing against the stream and more than once I feel tempted to also abandon the ship. I didn't because of selfishness and addiction, but also because I think that while the real owners of the site can do anything they want with their site, this is something that what makes this site are its members' contributions, so in a certain way, we gained the right to be here as far as we respect the rules. We certainly owe much to the TE owners for offering us this place, but they also make profit with our participation and their business will go down if many of the active members leave. Don't see this as a menace, as I don't mean that, but if things go on worsening, TE will become just another photo site and if people start feeling that the "TE community" is decaying or is becoming something where they don't feel well, they will go somewhere else. Actually, that is already happening... Owners know about their business and they can do whatever they want with it, but I find strange that they don't seem to care much for their clients, which is what we, members, are. If you are thinking that I am wrong just because we don't pay anything, just remember that Google and Yahoo aren't the only lucrative businesses that don't rely on money payments by the users of the services they offer. Even before Internet showed up, much of the media business income comes from money that it isn't paid by the readers and viewers, so it is not even something really new.
About the photo:
This is a stone statue of Kala Bhairava, the Terrible, the Frighful or the Wrathful, the most terrifying (evil?) avatars (a kind of incarnation) of the Hindu god Shiva. It is located in the main square of the historic part of Kathmandu, Durbar square.
It wasn't easy to find a photo that could be loosely appropriate to post today. Maybe it is a good sign that I have so few photos featuring depressing themes. Maybe this one isn't so appropriate, namely because it is too much to insinuate that the site is haunted by an evil deity. Actually, I might have completely misunderstood what Bhairava represents, namely to the Newar people that adore him so much in the Kathmandu Valley. As usual in Hinduism, Bhairava represents many things, not necessarily evil, although frightful; sometimes he is referred as the god of time.
The name Shiva can mean "the auspicious, kind , gracious one", so let's hope that the Bhairava of TE turns himself into the common Shiva.
Location (latitude, longitude): 27.70464,85.30713
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Docarmo
(9767) 2008-12-19 19:05
Olá José,
Interesting sculpture representing a strange belief, which I would not expect for this period of the year - extremely appropriate for what you have explained on your note. I've read the post and replies you linked for us to understand the case, I must confess that it is difficult to express the pleasure I had reading the reply of George. He showed he has blood in his veins and it is of a very noble one.
José, your post is absolutely politically correct, I agree entirely with you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, and giving us the chance to agree with.
MCV
riclopes
(35577) 2008-12-20 1:17
Bom dia José, obrigado pelo testamento. Apesar de longa, é clara e muito bem escrita (como habitual) e é essencial para explicar o que realmente aconteceu a quem aterra de paraquedas, sem ter de ler os 500 fóruns acerca do assunto.
Quanto à foto, é pena o tipo ter os pés cortados mas gosto bastante do terrível deus colorido e a pessoa sempre ajuda a termos a noção da escala disto. Como é habitual, apoio sempre os teus posts do Nepal ;-)
um abraço,
ricardo
batalay
(41261) 2008-12-20 3:21
Hello Dear José,
I like the symbolism resonating in this statue, I imagine, the God of Destruction (Shiva), as an unfortunate turn at this highly addictive site. As Kath Featherstone on her Intro page remarks, TE is much about learning about the world, as it is strictly a site of showcasing great photography. Nobody forces us to write a critique on every image posted, whether we like them or not. Why can we not simply be gracious about it, and non pan the images we don't necessarily like. Recently, I intruded, when my former student, Betty W. Jones, received a preposterous critique about her photograph of the "Newseum in Washington, DC, when an uncalled for comment came in (first one). The truth is, it is an excellent shot, with symmetries evoking the work of MC Escher. It is not necessary for us to be rude, just as it is not necessary for us to critique everything.
Have a good weekend, José, a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!
Bulent
feather
(51130) 2008-12-20 4:05
Including the person in your image was a good idea as without him we would have no idea of scale.
I did read your note but am refraining from commenting on it.
Kath
paura
(25802) 2008-12-20 15:18
José,
Detalhes bem definidos e lindas cores. Tenteni ver qual o f/stop mas não deu. Uns 9 será?
Abração
Paulo
Gerrit
(62042) 2008-12-20 16:01
Hi Jose,
it's quite a scary character. The story you tell is terrifying too.
Regards,. Gerrit
xuaxo
(6854) 2008-12-21 7:39 [Comment]
saylan-cb
(12738) 2008-12-21 8:27
Hi Jose,
This is an interesting image whit great colours and good details.
Excellent work!
TFS/Regards
lucasgalodoido
(27698) 2008-12-21 15:50
Olá José,
realmente algumas atitudes dos moderadores do TE são difíceis de se entender, só no Brasil ja perdemos dois grandes amigos do site (André e Miguel) por muito pouco. Conhecia pouco o trabalho do George, mas tinha grandes fotos... mas deixa pra lá, ainda não pisaram no meu calo, e por isso vou ficando aqui, mas ja vi muitas atitudes que se fosse comigo largaria o site, como o que ocorreu com o Neyvan recentemente, e apagaram todas as fotos dele...
Quanto a foto, bem interessante mesmo essa escultura, se fosse no Brasil com certeza seria um macumbeiro, hehe...
Parabéns e Abraço
Emile
(20352) 2008-12-24 22:51
Hola José.
No conocí a George Grabarczyk (Polonaise), la verdad que me hubiera gustado conocer sus fotos y sus criticas para saber que tipo de persona era, han quitado todas sus fotos, el o la administración y es muy tarde para saber o evaluar la situación, la cual ha provocado muchas protestas entre sus amigos.
Muy interesante tu foto de la estatua de piedra, tiene un gran colorido y mucha nitidez.
Tu POV y marco están muy buenos.
Feliz Navidad mi querido amigo para ti y tu esposa y el niño que ya no debe de ser tan niño, ya debe de estar bien grandecito.
Charo
(51290) 2008-12-28 16:42
Olá Jose,
Muito boa definição nesta imagem não é digital. Eu gosto as cores desta deusa, uma imagem muito colorida.
Feliz Ano 2009!
Abraços,
Charo
jmcl
(14535) 2008-12-31 11:29
Hi Jose,
Thank you for such an eloquent expression of these issues ..
One of the strange things about the way this strikes me is the color palette .. all those bright, vibrant, powerful tones .. like a flag almost ..
In music we used to have many aesthetic arguments about nature versus culture .. how much of "consonant" vs. "dissonant" perception is cultural against natural part of acoustic physics .. this makes me wonder about the same issues with color ..
take care,
John
Jardim
(3243) 2009-01-03 9:53
Gostei muito de ler a tua nota porque nos permite ter uma visão muito clara e ponderada das situações.
O elemento humano dá dimensão a esta estátua muito colorida e diferente das nossas.
JJ
jmdias
(116441) 2009-01-04 12:24
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muito bonita esta foto, belo colorido. gostei da luz perfeita e do pov e enquadramento adequados. Preferia o personagem em uma posição melhor mas nãoe straga a composição que é muito boa, parabéns
abraços
jorge
maloutim
(13617) 2009-01-16 20:26
Bonjour Jose!
Elle n'est pas si mal cette statue pour un dieu de la colère! Les dents sont un peu agressives , mais les couleurs font que ce n'est pas si terrible que cela!
Quant au sentiment de colère concernant les administrateurs, j'ai l'impression que cela pourrait être en train de changer: En écrivant à jcogan ([email protected]), une des nouvelles propriétaires du site, on reçoit des réponses! C'est déjà cela!
Et puis, je constate que l'exclusion n'a été que temporaire, puisqu'apparemment, on a remis ses photos à "Polonaise" au 31-12-2008.
Amicalement.
MarieLouise.
Miguel82
(47110) 2014-10-29 13:28
Jose, it reminds me Kathmandu, it's a place I remember. It is situated near Durbar square, people use to light candles here, bring marigold and pray
Photo Information
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Copyright: Jose Pires (stego)
(24132)
- Genre: ·ç¾°
- Medium: ²ÊÉ«
- Date Taken: 1994-11-03
- Categories: ÈÕ³£Éú»î, Ceremony, Artwork
- Camera: Olympus OM4, 35mm positive
- More Photo Info: view
- Map: view
- Photo Version: Original Version
- Travelogue: Nepal 1994
- Theme(s): Religions, Religion, Religions, !My film scans, !People, Waiting for Polonaise [view contributor(s)]
- Date Submitted: 2008-12-19 18:01