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pboehringer (770) 2007-10-17 20:38

Jose,
I'm really very impressed with your PP. Comparing the original and the final product is shocking! What a difference! Sure, I recognized the place immediatelly from your previous Puerto Plata post. The old lady looks quite sympathetic and her donkey and the off center of her in your ocmposition is good. The sharpness looks good enough for me.
Regards, Peter

Just-A-Guy (339) 2007-10-17 22:02

Hi Jose,

I must say I am impressed with your technical ability in mastering the wonders of Photoshop or what ever it was. No doubt the photo looks much nicer now without the ugly reminiscent of our modern times such as power lines and cars. This way we can truely enjoy the colorful colonial architecture and imagine how the place looked like on the turn of the century. Acting according to this this reasoning you can easily go on and convert the asphalt pavement of the street to a dust road, and the fire hydrant to a charming old fountain in order to eradicate modernicity completely.
But the thing is that I disagree with such efforts at all to begin with . I don't think they belong in TE, because what are we going to learn about the world through this photograph ? that Puerto Plata is a nice little place without electricity or cars? All that is remained to do is convert it to Sepia tone so it looks kind of old. No, I want to see the ugly things combined with the beautiful, because this is reality, if you like it or not. Again, I like to look at the photo for its aesthetic value but not for the idea that stands behind it.

ribeiroantonio (22730) 2007-10-18 3:36

Eh pá, como é que conseguiste desfazer-te de tanta coisa? Desisto de prourar um pontinho para te criticar. Mas, devo dizer que, aquela ideia do anúncio da "gift shop" está fantástica. É um excelente trabalho de paciência? Também fazes puzzles de 10.000 peças?!!!
António

UnTrained (0) 2007-10-18 6:20

Olá José,
good idea to park the cars somewhere else via clone key. It is easier to focus on the old lady, as she is worth to do so. Wonderful angle for amazing depth. I decided for me not to clone out such things like wires in that amount, even well done, some stay visible.
Lieben Gruss, Ulf

danos (110407) 2007-10-18 9:23

Ola Jose,
nice composition with perspective and a good POV.The old lady lonely, on the road, rider on her donkey,seems so happy.I think that well you made and erase the cables from the street but I believe that the cars should be stay on the road seeing the original photo.The colours and the light are good enough.Informative your note too.Well done my friend.

Zelanda (5692) 2007-10-18 15:55

Hola Jose,
Simpática toma de la señora y su burrito. Estupenda perspectiva de este humilde barrio y bonitos colores.
Saludos
Ros

     pamastro (7296) 2007-10-18 18:04

I have to first say the colors in this look beautiful and the contrast creates a nice depth to the street scene. But I have to go along with some of the others on what was one to this. I see the problems in two ways.

First I think cloning out the cars has, because they were so prominent, caused a serious quality issue from front to back. The front is so crisp and clean while the back becomes silky smooth and "bumpy" in areas as a result of the cloning.

The other thing is that by removing the modern elements of street lamps, wires and cars you lose more than you've gained. Mainly the cars I'm thinking about here. In the actual scene the contrast between the modern cars and this old woman on a mule creates a really interesting contrast. Modern and efficient and anachronistic and antique. It's much more of a clash between two different times and is an indicator of that time in development where both coexist. Although there are modern elements still in the image it does not have the same clash as the more crowded actual scene.

So, like I said, the colors turned out great. And I think there are some interesting traits about the "clash" as I said. But overall I think you've lost more than you've gained by making the changes.

But that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to impose it on you or anyone just saying what I think.

darrasin (2860) 2007-10-18 22:02

Greetings Jose! I see this was a very productive location for you. This one is a charming cultural capture, the essence of TE so I wouldn't worry about the exta PP involved. Thanks for including the original for comparison sake.

Compositionally all the elements are arranged nicely from the angle of the street to the position of the women. Well done!

TFS
Doug

Dpbours (222) 2007-10-19 1:10

i Jose,

Hahaha, I like this one! She's even using the crossing. :-)
Wow, congratulations with the post processing! Very well done!!

Greetings,
Dennis

batalay (41261) 2007-10-19 4:32

Hello José,

I recognized the location immediately. But here, the woman riding the donkey makes the photo very much more compelling. That was gracious of you to give her a little money. That is a moral obligation that I always feel when I take photographs of people.

Warm regards, José,

Bulent

leonorkuhn (16237) 2007-10-19 13:36

Olá José,

Vejo que a imagem suscitou controvérsias, o que é bom num site de aprendizado como o TE. Tenho visto clonagens em diversas imagens e em algumas ocasiões acho que ela se justifica, enfatizando o assunto principal. O caso é, até onde deve-se alterar a realidade? Você foi honesto ao colocar a imagem original, para comparação. O trabalho de pós-processamento realmente está muito bom, mas eu teria feito um crop como o WS do Francisco.

Abraços
Leonor

ChrisJ (172436) 2007-10-20 2:33

Hola Jose

A superb daily life scene from the Dominican Republic. The lady on the donkey is a marvellous addition, & really animates the whole shot. Good colour & sharpness. Tfs!

Bluejeans (64251) 2007-10-21 15:24

Oi Jose ,
Que bonita foto comica , ficou fantastica a velhinha em cima do burro a dizer adeus ,e uma cena rara , fizeste um trabalho fantastico de clonagem , parabens!!!!
Um abraço Gonçalo
Gostei do Ws do Francisco

emilbo (22616) 2007-10-27 6:26

Olà Jose!
Une scène typyque des pays du Sud que j'ai vue souvent et que j'aime bien avec la vieille dame qui t'envoie la main. Bonne composition avec les maisons en diagonale et le personnage et l'âne juste au bon endroit. Beau travail.
Cordiales salutations!... et bonne fin de semaine,
Emilius

Bruno40 (6662) 2007-12-17 7:10

Hola Jose,
This one is very nice, the lady reminds me of Don QUijote and Sancho Panza...
This daily life photo is one in thousand.
I like it a lot.
regarding the PP, I think we all should know where to stop. I have seen photos being trasnformed completely in PS, and nobody complains. I appreciate that you posted the original in WS. I do the same, especially for those with heavy PP. The heavier PP the most one should post the original photo. It is good for learning.
well done
Joorge