Born before Leonardo, a photo from Perugia, Umbria

Photographer's Note

See the WS too!
I close the Bevagna series with a visit to the weaving museum. What you see is a circular silk twisting machine, the first complex operational machine that man has ever built. It is an apparently very complex machine, but in reality it seems so because it is dense and repetitive. Its operating elements are repeated several dozen times, allowing you to regularly twist 80-150 threads at the same time. An engine man placed inside moves it while an operator outside takes care of the various needs of twisting. It appears in Lucca, around the thirteenth century. It is one of the most interesting machines of the Middle Ages. It is really interesting to see it in operation, if you have time, watch the ending of this short video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cA_VBSGVbo

Chiudo la serie da Bevagna con la visita al museo della tessitura. Quello che vedete � un torcitoio circolare da seta ,la prima macchina operativa complessa che l抲omo abbia mai costruito. Si tratta di una macchina apparentemente molto complessa, ma che in realt� sembra tale perch� densa e ripetitiva. I suoi elementi operativi son ripetuti parecchie decine di volte, consentendo di torcere in modo regolar 80-150 fili contemporaneamente. Un uomo motore collocato all抜nterno, la muove mentre un operatore all抏sterno provvede alle varie esigenze della torcitura. Esso compare a Lucca, intorno al XIII secolo. Si tratta di una delle macchine pi� interessanti del medioevo. E' davvero interessante vederla in funzione, se avete tempo guardate il finale di questo breve video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cA_VBSGV

Fis2, pierrefonds, ricardomattos, ikeharel, COSTANTINO, holmertz, jhm, ktanska, mcmtanyel, ChrisJ, clic, dekanski, PaulVDV has marked this note useful

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Fis2 (169791) 2021-10-25 14:00

Witaj Luciano!
Very interesting photos from the weaving museum.
This weaving machine is impressive, I like such monuments!
Good framing, colors and sharpness.
Excellent film!
Have a nice new week.
Krzysztof

pierrefonds (113634) 2021-10-25 15:04

Bonsoir Luciano,

Le cadrage serr� met la machine en 関idence. La prise de vue permet de voir les d閠ails de la machine � tisser. La lumi鑢e met en valeur les couleurs de l'image. Bonne soir閑.

Pierre

ricardomattos (17408) 2021-10-25 15:42

Ciao Luciano

Muito interessante esta maquina de fazer fios de seda. Impressionante que ainda esteja em funcionamento para algo fabricado na idade m閐ia. O v韉eo � muito interessante com o homem l� dentro operando a m醧uina. Excelente trabalho !

Parab閚s e abra鏾

Ricardo

pajaran (114971) 2021-10-25 21:21

Pozdrav.

Lep pogled, interesantan i dobar tekst ...
Lepa stara masina, dobro pokazana sa lepim bojama i kontrastom.
Dobar rad, lepa fotografija.
Lep eksponat u muzeju tkanja.

Zelim vam lep i uspesan dan, sve najbolje.
Paja

abmdsudi (95869) 2021-10-25 21:25

Hi Luciano
Lovely 'still life' museum stuff, nice lighting, very well seen and captured. Well done
Best regards

Silvio1953 (220665) 2021-10-25 22:21

Ciao Luciano, veramente interessante questa macchina, a dimostrazione che il Medioevo non � stato poi un periodo cos� buio come ci immaginiamo, bei dettagli e splendida nitidezza, ottima qualit� come al solito, bravo, ciao Silvio

ikeharel (112475) 2021-10-25 22:44

Well managed a close-up view on the ancient wooden machine, Luciano.
the wires are from klater era, I assume.
Buona giornata,
Ike

ifege (47013) 2021-10-25 22:46

HI Luciano
What an amazing looking silk machine! Great photo with 2 useful WS as well.
cheers
Ian

COSTANTINO (115583) 2021-10-25 22:47

hello dear Luciano
your chosen title is really suprising
lovely...still life museum...
it seems so complicated to me
but thanks for your explanation
regards
Costantino

jemaflor (146330) 2021-10-25 23:20

Salut Luciano,
Bien pr閟ent閑 cette machine � filer, parfaite qualit� pour la vue avec nettet�, teintes et luminosit� parfaites. Int閞essants aussi la note et le WS, merci du partage.

holmertz (102042) 2021-10-26 0:41

Hello Luciano,
You took on a difficult task by showing us such a complicated machinery that is hard to understand in one photo like this. The WS are more "beautiful", but of course the main photo is the most interesting, however difficult. The movie is a very important complement that (almost) explains how the machine works. It's fascinating to see it in action, but I wish there had been English subtitles. But is this really the original 13th century machine, or a modern exact copy?
Best regards,
Gert

jmdias (114318) 2021-10-26 1:37

luciano

A surprising old machine, show us the idea was present in human mind much time before the industrial era. Nice images,
Tc
Jorge

jhm (211734) 2021-10-26 5:48

Hello Luciano,

Three nice picture, of cours your head picture are the most attractive.
I like your second picture of the WS the most beautiful with curtain
Very well presentation, TFS.

Best regards,
John.

ktanska (44492) 2021-10-26 9:50

Hi Luciano,
Very interesting to see such historic machine. Without your note it would have been just a visual mystery. But knowing what it did wakes up imagination of old times, early textile industry and the Silk Road.
Kari

Tue (91612) 2021-10-26 10:16

Hello Luciano,
This ancient machine looks very complicated indeed! You captured it very well and clearly and we get to see the details very well and with fine lighting. Excellent work.
Lars

mcmtanyel (67709) 2021-10-26 20:19

Hello Luciano,
Three lovely photos. For some reason, WS2 is my favorite.
Regards,
MT

ChrisJ (171280) 2021-10-28 4:44

Hi Luciano,

Marco Polo reputedly brought back several great ideas from his trips to China, including canals such as those in Venice, spaghetti (using wheat instead of rice ) and seraculture / silk. A great win all around for Italia! This old silk weaving machinery is fascinating. Tfs!

dekanski (9277) 2021-10-30 13:05

Dear Luciano,
this time note is more interesting than photo itself (although photo is great). A place worth visiting, realy! Thanks! Have a pleasant Sunday, with one extra hour of sleeping :)

PaulVDV (62804) 2021-10-30 13:13

Hello Luciano,
For someone like me who isn't that strong technically, the photos in the WS are easier to grasp.
What you show in your main photo seems to me to be a very complicated installation. But technically the picture is very qualitative. Clear and bright, perfectly sharp down to the smallest details. The size of the machine is made clear by the lady sitting next to it.
Best regards, Paul

mkamionka (73440) 2021-11-02 2:20

Ciao Luciano,
This indeed makes us first think about the machines created by Leonardo da Vinci. Great reportage, machines like this make always a photogenic subject with so many lines and connections.
Very well seen and captured,
M